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Wednesday, January 14, 2026

Potential New Fission Cluster?: (23637) 1997 AM6, (580635) 2015 CG73, and 2015 BC618

Orbital data

                             a            e          i         om          w
580635 (2015 CG73)  2.30532288 0.0834925047 7.85348058 101.326491 314.803897
 23637 (1997 AM6)   2.30528533 0.0834721545 7.85472149 101.329196 314.770434
       (2015 BC618) 2.30526674 0.0834717493 7.85456627 101.329981 314.775063

read from JPL Horizons


Orbital similarity
Same-epoch osculating elements (epoch=2461000.5) are extremely similar, and pairwise Drummond (1981) D-criteria are very small:

(23637) 1997 AM6 – (580635) 2015 CG73: D_D ≈ 1.2e-4
(580635) 2015 CG73 – (2015 BC618): D_D ≈ 1.2e-4
(23637) 1997 AM6 – (2015 BC618): D_D ≈ 5.0e-6


Mercury6 backward simulation

)O+_06 Integration parameters  (WARNING: Do not delete this line!!)

) Lines beginning with `)' are ignored.

)---------------------------------------------------------------------

) Important integration parameters:

)---------------------------------------------------------------------

 algorithm (MVS, BS, BS2, RADAU, HYBRID etc) = BS

 start time (days)= 2461221.5

 stop time (days) = -1e8

 output interval (days) = 100

 timestep (days) = 0.05

 accuracy parameter=1.d-12


Backward integration results

Nominal backward integrations taking into account all planets + Ceres + Pallas + Vesta (gravity only; no Yarkovsky) show two distinct pair-like minima:
  • (23637) 1997 AM6 – (580635) 2015 CG73: convergence at ~ -46.6 kyr, V_rel ≈ 0.22 m
  • (580635) 2015 CG73 – (2015 BC618): convergence at ~ -24.9 kyr, V_rel ≈ 0.18 m/s





 
















However, the direct integration of (23637) 1997 AM6– (2015 BC618) does not show a comparable young convergence, finding only a broad higher-velocity minimum near -245 kyr (V_rel ~ 1.5 m/s).





Discussion of origins

two possible interpretations:
 
Scenario 1: Cascade / intermediate parent
(23637) 1997 AM6 splits -> "Object A", which later splits almost in half -> (580635) 2015 CG73 and 2015 BC618.
This matches the nominal timeline (primary event at ~ -46 kyr, secondary event at ~ -25 kyr) and is consistent with the nearly identical H magnitudes of the two smaller bodies.
Difficulty: it is dynamically counterintuitive that (580635) 2015 CG73 is offset from the primary (D_D ~ 1e-4) while 2015 BC618 remains essentially "on top of" the primary (D_D ~ 1e-6). In this scenario, both fragments would be expected to inherit the dispersion/drift of the intermediate parent ("Object A"), so it is not obvious how 2015 BC618 ended up with an osculating orbit so close to (23637) 1997 AM6.
In spite of this, (580635) 2015 CG73 can be traced back to the primary in the nominal integration, while this is not possible for 2015 BC618.
 
Scenario 2: Repeated fission from the primary
(23637) 1997 AM6 ejected both fragments directly in separate events.
This naturally explains why 2015 BC618 matches the primary so closely (it could be a very recent fragment), while the ~ -46 kyr convergence for (23637) 1997 AM6 - (580635) 2015 CG73 would represent a distinct older event.
Difficulties:
(1) it is surprising that the gravity-only integration fails to link (23637) 1997 AM6 and 2015 BC618 at a young epoch
(2) The two small bodies have nearly identical H (and thus may be similar in size if their albedos are comparable) : a curious coincidence for two indipendent ejection events.
 
Conclusion
At present, neither interpretation is fully conclusive.
I would welcome any comments on the dynamical picture.
Are there any physical observations (colors/spectra/albedo/rotation) available for these bodies?

Monday, December 1, 2025

(612288) 2001 TA253 and P/2024 R3

Minor Planet Ephemeris Service: Query Results

(612288) 2001 TA253

Based on 5-opp elements from MPO 892206.

Date       UT      R.A. (J2000) Decl.    Delta     r      El.    Ph.   V

2025 11 21 000000  07 59 52.7 +37 38 25  2.862   3.494  122.5  13.8  22.9


P/2024 R3 (PANSTARRS)

Based on elements from MPEC 2024-X74.

Date       UT      R.A. (J2000) Decl.    Delta     r      El.    Ph.   m1

2025 11 21 000000  08 34 35.7 +36 02 49  2.967   3.508  115.5  14.7  22.8


Orbital parameters integrated at the same epoch

OBJECT               a        e         i        peri      node     long
(612288) 2001 TA253  3.20298  0.268006  14.5865  305.3757  31.9040  337.2797
P/2024 R3            3.20291  0.267791  14.7029  309.5125  33.1242  342.6367

State Vectors (AU, AU/day):
(612288)  X:-0.6169  Y: 3.3393  Z: 0.8225   VX:-0.00867  VY: 0.00040  VZ: 0.00128
P/2024 R3 X:-0.9829  Y: 3.2561  Z: 0.8565   VX:-0.00864  VY:-0.00053  VZ: 0.00112

Mercury 6 - Backward integration

)O+_06 Integration parameters  (WARNING: Do not delete this line!!)

) Lines beginning with `)' are ignored.

)---------------------------------------------------------------------

) Important integration parameters:

)---------------------------------------------------------------------

 algorithm (MVS, BS, BS2, RADAU, HYBRID etc) = BS

 start time (days)= 2461000.5

) stop time (days) = 102458000.5

 stop time (days) = -1e8

 output interval (days) = 100

 timestep (days) = 0.05

 accuracy parameter=1.d-12



Kind Regards,

Alessandro Odasso

Monday, January 15, 2024

2015 TB430 and 1997 YF7

 Interesting couple.


Simulation based on nominal orbital parameters 

Mercury6 software

)---------------------------------------------------------------------

) Important integration parameters:

)---------------------------------------------------------------------

 algorithm (MVS, BS, BS2, RADAU, HYBRID etc) = BS

 start time (days)=  2460106.5

) stop time (days) = 102458000.5

 stop time (days) = -1e8

 output interval (days) = 100

 timestep (days) = 0.05

 accuracy parameter=1.d-12


Simulation result


Thursday, June 23, 2022

(246095) = 2007 DQ102 versus 2016 CQ357

Following this message from Adrian Coffinet, I tried a backward simulation based on the current nominal orbital parameters.

The result seems to confirm that these two Hungarians might have a common origin: